KK-Forum,
Jeg leste nettopp det Oddmund Garvik la ut fra en fransk kilde om den nå
igangsatte rettergangen mot den bosnisk-serbiske general Krstic (sendt Tue,
14 Mar 2000 10:02:54 +0100).
Jeg hadde nettopp lest om den samme saken i The Independent, London, og det
som slo meg i den engelske reportasjen var at det var svært få ekshumerte
lik i forhold til antallet antatt myrdete. Det samme gikk fram av en kilde
jeg husket å ha lest for lang tid tilbake ('SREBRENICA, 3 Years Later, And
Still Searching', By George Pumphrey, July 1998) på
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Pumphrey.html
Jeg stusset derfor over Garviks tall. De var store og stemte slett ikke
overens med Independents tall. Jeg sjekket deretter opp Garviks franske
kilde, og kan melde om følgende (A-C):
A. The Independent skriver bl.a. (hele artikkelen er lagt ved til slutt):
>"...But while Serb camcorders have shed some light on the
>tragedy, there is much that is unclear about the massacre of
>Srebrenica. No film has surfaced of the actual mass
>executions. To this day, only a few hundred bodies have been
>found in the ravines around Srebrenica, and there are
>hundreds of such lonely places where other bodies may yet be
>discovered. The UN exhumed 250 corpses last August. They
>all had their hands tied behind their backs."
B. Garvik skriver på
http://www.itk.ntnu.no/ansatte/Andresen_Trond/kk-f/fra170100/0475.html
og anførselstegnene ved begynnelsen og slutten gir leseren inntrykk av at
det oversettes direkte fra en originaltekst:
>"General Krstic for den internasjonale domstolen
>
>Det er den første høgare ansvarlege serbaren frå Bosnia til no som
>blir dømt for massakrane utført i 1995 då den muslimske enklaven i
>Srebrenica fall.
>
>13 mars 2000. Den 52 år gamle offiseren, tidlegare høgrehanda til
>den bosnisk-serbiske eks-miltærsjefen Ratko Mladic, må framfor
>domarane i Haag svare for to anklager vedrørande folkemord, fem
>for brotsverk mot menneskerettane og ei for krigsbrotsverk. Han
>risikerer livsvarig fengsel.
>
>Då dei bosnia-serbiske styrkane i midten av juli 1995 tok enklaven
>rundt Srebrenica, den gongen "verna FN-sone" i Nordaust-Bosnia,
>blei det gjennomført fryktelege massakrar. Minst 7.574 personar,
>alle muslimar, er meldt sakna og truleg døde. Fleire lik blei henta
>fram frå massegravene - 1.866 er identifiserte som personar drepne
>i, eller i nærleiken av enklaven. Men 2.575 andre var likeins offer for
>dei same massakrane, utan at dette førebels er prova."
C. Men her er hva Garviks kilde (http://www.europeinfos.com/) skriver idag
14. mars om anklagen mot Krstic og Srebrenica. Her er ingenting om tallene
1866 og 2575, og teksten er ganske annrledes enn Garviks:
>©2000 AFP Reuters
>Le général Krstic jugé pour son rôle dans la chute sanglante de
>Srebrenica
>Le chef militaire serbe de Bosnie comparaît depuis hier
>devant le Tribunal Pénal International. Il est accusé de génocide,
>crimes contre l'humanité et crimes de guerre. Il risque la prison à
>perpétuité.
>
>14 mars 2000. Le général Krstic, 52 ans, est le premier haut
>responsable serbe bosniaque à comparaître devant la cour spéciale
>de La Haye pour son rôle dans la chute de Srebrenica, cette
>enclave musulmane bosniaque, pourtant déclarée à l'époque "zone
>de sécurité" des Nations unies.
>
>Les deux principaux accusés des
>massacres de Srebrenica, les ex- chefs politique et militaire des
>Serbes de Bosnie Ratko Mladic et Radovan Karadzic courent
>toujours.
>
>Ancien bras droit de Ratko Mladic, Radislav Krstic doit
>répondre devant le TPI d'inculpations de génocide, complicité de
>génocide, crimes contre l'humanité et crime de guerre. On lui
>reproche notamment le transfert et la déportation de 20 000 à 30
>000 Musulmans bosniaques et les tueries collectives
>systématiquement organisées du 11 au 17 juillet 1995. Le premier
>mois de son procès, qui s'annonce extrêmement long, sera
>exclusivement consacré à l'exposé de l'acte d'accusation.
Spørsmål
Er tallene som Garvik gir i denne setningen
>Fleire lik blei henta fram frå massegravene - 1.866 er identifiserte
>som personar drepne i, eller i nærleiken av enklaven. Men 2.575
>andre var likeins offer for dei same massakrane, utan at dette
>førebels er prova.
tatt fra Garviks egen hukommelse eller fra en fransk (eller annen) kilde
som ikke er identisk med den som Garvik oppga (f.eks. en gammel artikkel på
samme webadresse, eller en annen kilde)? Kunne vi i tilfelle få denne
kilden oppgitt også? Kunne Garvik også kommentere uoverensstemmelsene
mellom hans oversettelse og den franske teksten på det oppgitte nettstedet?
Knut Rognes
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[The Independent]
Besieged, starved and then herded off to
the slaughter
By Marcus Tanner
14 March 2000
Five years after the worst massacre in Europe since the
Second World War, the trial of General Radislav Krstic may
exorcise some of the ghosts that still hover over a tormented
little town in Bosnia called Srebrenica.
No one who ever visited the town in the 1992-95 Bosnian war,
as I did in the bitter January of 1993, will forget the memory of
the starving and wounded inhabitants. By then they had
endured eight months of siege and bombardment at the
hands of Gen Krstic and his infamous "Drina Wolves".
Gaunt, pale and painfully thin, the women ran from their hiding
places weeping for joy at the sight of the first snow-white UN
aid convoy to penetrate the Serb blockade and bring food and
medicine. At Srebrenica hospital I found girls and boys dying in
filthy sheets. Many had only simple flesh wounds from shelling
but without food to give them vitamins, or penicillin, they had
quickly succumbed. The nurses were heroic.
I watched them struggle down to the river bank to try to wash
the blood out of the sheets in the Drina's icy, choppy water,
braving the danger of Bosnian Serb sniper fire. They no longer
had soap or fuel to heat water. The Bosnian winter is freezing
because of the high altitude, and Srebrenica was higher up
than most. But Gen Krstic's men had pounded the roof off
almost every building in town. I knew that if I had lived there I
would have been dead already by the January of 1993.
The 30,000 inhabitants of Srebrenica had experienced a
nightmarish existence, even by the standards of Sarajevo,
whose plight could at least be brought to the world's attention
through the foreign media. The one comfort that all of us aid
workers and reporters thought we were bringing to this
disaster zone was that the worst of their ordeal was over.
It seemed likely that if the Serbs let in one convoy, then they
would let in others. On 16 April that year the UN duly appeared
to guarantee the security of the Bosnian Muslim enclave, when
it proclaimed Srebrenica, the nearby enclave of Cerska and the
city of Bihac in north-west Bosnia UN "safe areas". What
followed was an outrageous act of betrayal and the worst
single act of carnage the Continent had seen since the 1940s.
The UN disarmed the Bosnian Muslims in 1993, only to
surrender the town and its inhabitants to Gen Krstic and his
superior, Gen Ratko Mladic, in 1995, once the Bosnian Serb
leadership had decided to get rid of the Muslim enclaves.
There is, amazingly, a considerable amount of television
footage of what happened in Srebrenica after the Serbs
overpowered the 150-strong Dutch garrison on 11 July 1995,
most taken by Bosnian Serb troops and the Serbian media. It
shows the despicable tactics the two generals adopted to
make sure the "ethnic cleansing" of the town would be 100 per
cent complete.
They bussed off most of the town's 8,000 men of active military
age to be slaughtered, the ones who had peacefully
surrendered. A few Muslims were kept behind to track down
the remaining men they knew were hiding in the woods. They
used these men as decoys to flush the survivors out of their
hiding places, making them shout that everything was fine and
that the Serbs had guaranteed everyone free passage to the
Muslim-held city of Tuzla, with the womenfolk. The human
decoys were shot, just off camera, once they had served
theirpurpose. Because of that, only a handful of stragglers
made it through the forests to Tuzla to tell the story.
But while Serb camcorders have shed some light on the
tragedy, there is much that is unclear about the massacre of
Srebrenica. No film has surfaced of the actual mass
executions. To this day, only a few hundred bodies have been
found in the ravines around Srebrenica, and there are
hundreds of such lonely places where other bodies may yet be
discovered. The UN exhumed 250 corpses last August. They
all had their hands tied behind their backs.
But just over 7,400 men from Srebrenica are still officially
"missing" and the mystery over their final resting place has
only prolonged the misery of their wives, mothers, sisters and
daughters.
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