Om graver, kroppsdeler og ødelagte hus

Knut Rognes (knrognes@online.no)
Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:16:36 +0200

KK-Forum,

Apropos bilder vi har sett på TV i det siste - hus med stein og grus og
fragmenter av skjeletter og hår, pluss ting vi blir fortalt er massegraver
- her en artikkel fra 18. juni (litt gammel, beklager) av en journalist som
stiller spørsmål vi ikke hører ofte fra journalistene vi har rundt oss.

Knut Rognes

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How Did that Evil Serb Set Fire to a Solid Stone and Brick House with No
Wood in it?

Is a "good" Journalist today Required to Report Bill Clinton is a GOOD leader?
By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources, http://www.originalsources.com
June 18, 1999

"Many burial sites have been found," the fresh faced young spokesman with a
British accent for one of the military groups said at the press conference.
"But, bear in mind, there has been a war going on here."

And, so we have people like Christiane Amanpour announcing what has taken
place as an ethnic Albanian returns to the remains of his home, finding, he
says, that 26 of his cousins have been killed and the home destroyed.
Amanpour says the house was "torched."

Perhaps my 29 years as a building contractor is showing, but the house was
clearly a stone house that was stuccoed. I saw no evidence of wood. What I
saw was a masonry building that appeared to have been bombed. Now, I don't
know who did the bombing, but something more impressive than a match
brought down that masonry building. We were shown grisly remains of humans
- in fact the Albanian pointed to bits and pieces of hair and teeth and
calmly announced that he could recognize his cousin from the teeth.

Again, what I saw was broken bits of human parts which appeared to have
been blown up. Was it the result of Serb mortars or NATO bombs? I saw very
similar pictures on www.serbia-info.com after NATO bombed the Serb TV
studios, killing a number of people, including a make-up artist, those who
manned the cameras and the production facilities and journalists.

I also was sent by a reader articles from the Times in Britain describing a
"torture chamber" in Southeast Pristina which contained primitive
instruments of torture. "Standing yesterday in the basement, filled with
primitive instruments of torture, Lieutenant Blakeley said: "The (Serb)
commandant was all very friendly and shook my hand. He showed me some of
the rooms because we were afraid the building may have been booby trapped.
We didn't go downsairs or to the top floors. It wasn't until after he had
gone that we came down here. When we say this it was disgusting. It's quite
eerie."

"Corporal Frank Gostling, who was guarding the entrance yesterday to
prevent evidence being tampered with, said: 'It's obvious what potentially
could have occurred there. ...You have strong feelings when you go into
that basement.'"
What "potentially could have occurred?" What actual proof exists that those
"primitive torture instruments" were actually used by the police? Doesn't
that whole scenario seem a little strange? Wouldn't the Serbs blow up or do
something to all those primitive instruments of torture before turning the
place over to NATO? Why would the Serbs smilingly and peacefully turn over
what writer Michael Evans described as: "the dark, evil-smelling medieval
torture chamber beneath the Serb Ministry of Interior police (MUP) station"
which Evans promptly concluded "must have been a terrifying descent for the
hundreds of ethnic Albanians - men, women and children - who were dragged
from their homes and brought here for interrogation. "All the instruments
of torture are on display. Nothing sophisticated, just brutal weapons held
and wielded by the MUP interrogators trying to find any Albanians who knew
about the UCK (the Kosovo Liberation Army): knuckle-dusters with
sharp-pointed edges; truncheons, one split in half by the force of the
blows; cudgels; a long knife, more like a sword with a blade more than 2ft
long; a baseball bat; heavy metal chains; a pickaxe; a large brown leather
belt; a car battery for electrode 'treatment'; and a black hood.'"

If you visit Folsom Prison, in Folsom, California, you can see an entire
wall of very primitive weapons, mostly knives - all of them made by the
prisoners to do in their fellow prisoners. Throughout Europe you can find
collections of "primitive torture chambers" - and monuments to man's
inhumanity to man. In fact, if you visit Poland you can visit the Polish
government maintained Auschwitz, Birkenau Concentration camps, preserved as
a memorial for all those who perished there during World War II. Birkenau
is not a museum, research archive, or publishing house. It is preserved
more or less in the state it was found at liberation in January 1945.

Did any of the horrified journalists go ask the Serbs what, if anything,
they did with that torture chamber, or have they merely swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, a view the KLA wants to sell the world? I imagine there
are Serbs capable of torturing Albanians, especially after 80 days of
seeing their hospitals, TV stations, schools, and churches bombed. In fact,
I suspect there are a lot more Serbs capable of torturing Albanians and, if
they could, American pilots now than there were three months ago.

One of the investigators for the War Crimes Tribunal stated on CNN
yesterday, "If you have a certain kind of policy, excesses take place."
That is certainly true. The Serbs have observed a certain kind of policy
which might create other excesses - with 80 days of their nation being
bombed and struck with missiles because they would not sign a piece of
paper surrendering their sovereignty. They finally signed a paper - but it
did not call for them to surrender their sovereignty.

Now, I realize my skepticism and logical brain is considered very
politically incorrect in the current climate. After all, if it turns out
that the tales of "thousands of Albanians being killed" are not true, then
Clinton and NATO will be seen by the entire world, even the Western World,
as perpetrators of a monstrous policy of aggression similar to that of
Adolf Hitler.

One irate reader complained to Mike Reagan, "Is it really in doubt that
literally thousands of Albanians are missing? Does one need to be a brain
surgeon to deduce whose bodies are buried in those graves? I agree that the
networks, especially CNN is happy to show disturbing pictures before they
have all the facts but this story is so obviously transplanted Serb
propaganda I can't understand how Mary presents it as factual. Why can't
Mary understand that Albanians were slaughtered? Men, women and children
shot, burned, and beaten. Unfortunately Mary's treatment of the Kosovo
conflict reminds me not only of the apologists for Hitler prior to WWII,
but also the modern idiots who claim the holocaust didn't occur. Today's
story is just one more in Mary's continuing string of stories that attempt
so hard to paint Clinton as the bad guy she has lost sight of the real
crimes against humanity."

Well, actually, as editor of the Michael Reagan Information Interchange, I
simply posted a view, as I often do, from a source near Kosovo, this time
in Slovakia - not Yugoslavia - entitled "The X-Files: Whose Mass Graves?"
which pointed out that the "mass graves" are clearly marked with some kind
of sign, perhaps names. Why does everyone assume that all the people in
those graves are Albanians? NATO claims it has killed 10,000 Yugoslavian
soldiers. Where are THEIR graves? The Yugoslav Army and the KLA have been
blasting each other since shortly after the bombing started. How many of
the "mass graves" are the result of those battles? We know of at least two
instances when NATO killed scores of Albanian refugees. What mass grave are
they buried in?
If you visit Waregem, Belgium, you can visit the Flanders Field "mass
grave" where thousands of men killed in World War I, including 368
Americans, are buried side by side. NATO defines a "mass grave" as a spot
where more than three bodies are buried. Quite obviously, after 77 days of
bombing, there are going to be a lot of mass graves scattered around
Yugoslavia. Why in the world is the media assuming that those graves
contain bodies of people the Serbs have tortured and killed?

I am accused of a "continuing string of stories that attempt so hard to
paint Clinton as the bad guy." How about that! If I think Clinton is the
bad guy, my critic darkly hints, I am a "modern idiot" who claims "the
holocaust didn't occur" or an "apologist for Hitler prior to WW II." A
"good" journalist would be singing Clinton's praises for bombing Yugoslavia
back to the stone age, right? Certainly, in 1941 all "good" journalists in
Germany were expected, in fact REQUIRED, to report Adolf Hitler as a good
guy when HE invaded Yugoslavia.

Well, if that's what a "good" journalist does this day and age, I guess
I'll never make it as a 1990s journalist. I still think a journalist needs
to answer the questions of who, what, when, where , why and how - before
there is enough information to draw a conclusion. And, when I see a solid
masonry building with bricks on the ground, most of the roof gone, bodies
covered with loose bricks and body parts lying about, I just find it very
hard to believe that all happened as the result of a fire set by an evil
Serb, as Christiane Amanpour wants us to believe. Those brick and stone
walls look a good foot or more thick. How would a fire set by a Serb cause
that kind of damage to a stone and brick building that appears to have NO
wood in the structure?

So, folks, you are going to be regaled with lots of stories in the next few
weeks designed to convince you that Bill Clinton is a good guy who is
telling you the truth about those evil Serbs. I don't pretend to know
exactly who has been killing whom on the ground in Kosovo. All I know for
sure is that Bill Clinton's policy has led America to try very hard to kill
as many Serbs as possible because they wouldn't agree to turn their
sovereignty over to NATO and hand mineral rich Kosovo over to the Albanians.

And, as the War Crimes Tribunal investigator noted, "If you have a certain
kind of policy, excesses take place."

Expect more excesses and more war because of Bill Clinton's incredible 77
day bombing of a small country the size of Kentucky, inhabited by 11
million people, only 63% of whom were Serbs he was trying to destroy. The
next problem which NATO will undoubtedly exploit will be in the Serbian
province of Vojvodina, which has a population of about 300,000 Hungarians,
representing 18% of the province's population. Central Europe Online
reports today that " Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Wednesday
he backs an autonomy plan proposed by a 300,000-member ethnic Hungarian
minority in Serbia, following the Kosovo crisis." The Hungarians and Serbs
have lived peaceably together for many years - but I'm sure Bill Clinton
can change that.

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